【J】You mentioned that you also design other products, what do you think are the differences between bathroom products and other kinds of products, say furniture?

　　【J】您之前說您還設(shè)計(jì)其他產(chǎn)品，您覺得衛(wèi)浴產(chǎn)品和其他產(chǎn)品有什么不同么?比如家具?

　　【TN】For me first of all each company partner is different. It’s different story, it’s different people. I’m not trying to always do something with another parter, for me it could also be in the same field. Even if I work with different people different company like in furniture, it’s another story another culture another country, another…everything is new. Obviously the only common thing in this case is my participation. So when I focus on innovation I just focus on this relation for the project. I’m not thinking about if it’s different if it’s better. So I think it’s really like a story and fortunately I can live different stories.

　　【TN】對于我來說所有的合作公司都是不同的，都是不同的故事，不同的人。我也不是只和不同公司合作，也可以在相同領(lǐng)域里合作。即使我和不同公司合作，比如家具公司，也是另一個(gè)故事，另一個(gè)文化，另一個(gè)國家，另一個(gè)……所有事情都是全新的。當(dāng)然在這種情況下，維持不變的就是我的參與。當(dāng)我專心創(chuàng)新時(shí)我全身心投入在項(xiàng)目里，我并沒有去想這有哪些不同或者是不是更好。所以我覺得這整個(gè)過程就像是個(gè)故事，而我很幸運(yùn)能活在很多不同故事當(dāng)中。

　　【MV】We have Mr. Magrans joining us, Laufen Chief of CEO.

　　【MV】勞芬的CEO Magrans先生也會加入到我們的訪談中。

　　【J】I’ve read in other interview that functionality is the most important thing for your design, do you consider that to be your design philosophy?

　　【J】在過去的訪談中您提到在您設(shè)計(jì)中，功能是最重要的，這是您的設(shè)計(jì)理念嗎?

　　【TN】Functionality is very important, it’s one of the important issue. For me, functionality is a little bit restrictive because my motto is to make products which make sense so it could be without functionality if it makes sense. In the case of the project INO with SaphirKeramik the functionality is very important because we are talking about the bathroom, a place where people use everyday, and it has to work, you cannot say that I don’t know where to put my things or it’s too sharp it’s hurting or the bathtub is not comfortable enough. So in this case the functionality I think is very important because there’s a clear relation between the user and the objects which are the ceramic part of the bathtub the washbasin and any piece of the furniture. So yes it’s an important point. My thinking is really to achieve some new products in corporation with the company. So what I was saying before it’s more of my approach, is really to work in team, to make the people believe in the project then bring the project forward. Because in my experience if you bring something that people really don't believe in the company, it never works. When the people say that they want to do it, it happened with SaphirKeramik because also the people from the development especially for SaphirKeramik, for them understood that it was a challenge and we were excited to do it, this is very excited also for me, that the people are willing to do it.

　　【TN】功能非常重要，這是其中一個(gè)重要的點(diǎn)。對于我來說只談功能有些太限制了，因?yàn)槲业睦砟钍窃O(shè)計(jì)“合理的”產(chǎn)品，所以即使是一個(gè)沒有“功能”的產(chǎn)品，只要它“合理”對我來說也是可行的。然而在使用藍(lán)鉆陶瓷的INO系列中，功能是非常重要的，因?yàn)檫@是衛(wèi)浴產(chǎn)品，人們天天都使用它，所以它必須能很好的運(yùn)作，不能說我不知道我的東西能放哪，或者造型太尖銳傷到人，或者浴缸使用起來很不舒服。所以在這個(gè)案子里，我認(rèn)為強(qiáng)調(diào)功能是必須的，因?yàn)橛脩艉彤a(chǎn)品之間有著非常明顯的相互作用關(guān)系。除此之外我覺得必須要和公司一起合作來開發(fā)新產(chǎn)品，所以就像我之前所說的，需要團(tuán)隊(duì)合作，需要人們相信這個(gè)項(xiàng)目并一起讓它變得更好。在我的過往經(jīng)驗(yàn)中，如果人們不相信，這項(xiàng)目永遠(yuǎn)不會成功。而藍(lán)鉆陶瓷這個(gè)項(xiàng)目，從研發(fā)團(tuán)隊(duì)來說，他們理解我的設(shè)計(jì)挑戰(zhàn)，而且也很為之興奮，因此對我來說也變成了一個(gè)大家愿意投入的很令人興奮的項(xiàng)目。

（藍(lán)鉆陶瓷INO系列生產(chǎn)過程）